Unconvincing - just a way to backfill a previously held position into the revelations of the Casey report. “We were right all along!” “Who even is this ‘Left’, anyway?”
1. You assume a ‘family of man’/open borders/internationalist perspective throughout. This omits the central point that every crime, of whatever type, committed by an immigrant or descendent of an immigrant is a crime that the government has chosen to occur.
2. Genuine concern for victims should not be turned into questioning the motives of those who are similarly concerned. For example, you wouldn’t criticise a leukaemia charity because they didn’t care about breast cancer. Or accuse a group concerned for homeless veterans of discriminating against those who hadn’t served in the military.
3. You also omit the cultural dimension and the assertion of racial/ideological superiority amongst the offenders. This is notable given your fixation with perceived ‘racism’ by those who express horror at the crimes.
I’m engaging in good faith and I have no reason to doubt your intentions. But the argument you express here is, imo, very flimsy.
Islam is hell on earth for women. As simple as that. Other religions are bad? Yes, they are. but islam is the worse. Ban all religions! Proibit it in general! Starting with islamism.
Interesting that time has shown the government to be liars and KJK to way more right about this issue than you thought way back in August when this was written. The perpetrator
Is Muslim and he had Al Qaeda terrorism paraphernalia in his flat. That he was know to police from prior requests by his parents. Are you know starting to understand the lengths the Government and media will go to coverup and censor issues they don’t want being aired in public? It truly is horrific.
This is brilliant Jo. Thankyou for your clarity in the appalling neglect suffered by girls in the care system. (I was one). And thankyou for exposing the racist opportunism of the far right and their hangers on like KJK.
You make the mistake of saying it is no worse, the rapes, that are ethnically motivated. But actually UK law does see these motivators as making a punishment worse - they are called hate crimes. And would include all those factors you mentioned (Asian, white, Muslims, Buddhists, Welsh, Jewish or any other cultural, religious, ethnic or racial categorization you want) if a victim is targeted for any of these reasons, like white girls are by the migrant pimps.
I always thought KJK was an attention hound and a provocateur. Her podcasts are dreary, unfunny and unserious. Her interviews are pugnacious and not particularly informative. Credit to her for early attention to trans craze issues. Since then, however, she's mostly been revealed to be loud and shallow.
Please will you repost this article -- needed urgently to counter repetition of the same old stereotypes of Asian grooming gangs -- ignoring the preponderance of white exploiters, misogynist law, and social care & policing failures -- now again dominating the news.
They're Pakistani Muslims, they were imported, and the police purposely avoided arresting them for fear of being called racist. These men view white girls as sex slaves, deserving of rape, which is why they target them, and that is Islamic.
That is the bottom line.
Crying about "inflaming tensions" and "avoiding divisions" is what has allowed this rape to go on for so long.
Look at all the word games and word salad these people have to play to convince themselves they're the good ones because they're not racist.
It's pathetic. This is the reason it went on for so long.
If the options are to stop rape or be racist, then it's time to be racist.
Nobody gives a fuck about that word anymore, and nobody should.
These interlopers and foreigners need to be deported, because they were imported, and they will be.
You can cry all you want about racism or tension or whatever the fuck you think makes you a good person.
You aren't. And the upcoming generation won't have it. Those days are gone, and you're the reason for it--I speak to the author.
Now go pat yourself on the back for being not racist, you rape enabler.
You make a lot of claims, but where are your facts? If the Pakistani rape gangs are just a stereotype not backed up by the facts then please present the facts that support your claim. We should see that the ethnicity/race of the perpetrators and victims are on average similar to the percentages that we see in the general or local population.
Coming back to this piece of yours after a resurgence of the asian grooming gangs issue, in particular after the latest substack from Julie Bindel.
I'd like to ask the same question to you: if police's shortcomings aren't due "simply" to fear of being branded racist, how would you explain them in a better way?
Even after witnessing mad wokery at play in different contexts, and even if I was always skeptical of policing in general, it would still seem strange to me to put the blame simply in an attitude of leftism-gone-mad, but I wouldn't bet "just" on sexism and mysoginy either. More so, if, as I read somewhere, in some circumstances some on the force were actively colluding with gangs. I'd suspect money is involved, and gangs operate not "just" on pimping but as a broader organization, mafia-like. This would also explain why many in the local communities wouldn't speak out, and would actually be defensive against journalists and volunteers inquiries, because of fear of vendettas.
Am I onto something? If so, could you point out some reading along this direction?
Like most readers, you see that she's full of shit.
They're not Asian. These are not Japanese atheists or Korean Baptists.
They are Pakistani Muslims, everybody knows it, they were imported, the police covered it up for being petrified of being called racist, and the author plays into that, proving why the problem went on for so long.
These girls were sacrificed on the altar of not being called racist.
It's evil. Racism is a better option than this, and everybody sees it.
There's no reading that needs to be done. You know the truth, and most people do.
What needs to happen is mass deportations. The problem was imported, now it can be deported.
It's also extremely if not more important that these despible gangs operated in Labour strongholds and infiltrated the council as Labour members - hence it has been in Labour's interest (for votes) not to investigate and avoid a national enquiry.
"Just to remind readers - the recent riots were started by disinformation about the identity of the boy in Southport who attacked a girls dance party, knifing many and killing three small girls. The disinformation was that he was Muslim, a migrant, on an MI5 watch list. Many of the populist extremist accounts spread this disinformation."
The murders were carried out on 29th July 2024. This article was written on 9th August 2024. Then on 30th October 2024 - almost 3 months after the tragic event, the police tell us they found a toxin and an al Qaeda training manual at the home of the perpetrator. On the balance of probability, do we think it took them 3 months to find the evidence or that they waited as long as possible to release it (whilst meanwhile offering up other information to obscure identity and motivation)? And will you now acknowledge that the link to Islam cannot be referred to as disinformation? In fact to do so would be to spread disinformation.
The link to Islam or the link to Al-Qaeda? One is a religion preaching against murder and the other is a training manual for militants who will kill anyone (mostly Muslims) for their geopolitical interests. I didn’t find info saying the murderer converted to Islam; I did find info that he’s on the autism spectrum, is shy, had become withdrawn etc.
Unfortunately and tragically, Islam was spread by the sword, which is relevant, as are its teachings regarding women and non-believers. Please read the Quran if you don't believe me and the Hadith - plenty of Islamic websites to confirm what I'm saying. A high percentage of Muslims (a third to a half) say they would prefer to live under Sharia so please check out what this means - Pakistan law is Sharia ... watch 'Candid with Lubna' if you want to know the truth of this culture. Not all Muslims, no. Islam is not a race. Mohammed is said to be fair in the Quran.
The Southport murderer had an Al Qaeda manual which is Islamicist obvs but it is true that his father was apparently a child soldier as part of the Christian Tutsi's ....
Islam preaching against murder? In Yasmine Mohammed‘s book Unveiled she says that at least five times a day over 1 billion people are droning on, calling for the death of all non-Muslims. She goes on to say that this brainwashing undoubtedly infects many minds, and even if only one percent of the over billion people indoctrinated act on the demands, that is still 16 million people. And the truth is that the number is a lot higher than one percent.
The following is obvious to anyone that has eyes to see and ears to hear. When rumours were spreading that the perpetrator was a Muslim, the implication was that he was motivated by al Qaeda-style Islamism, as were many similar attacks in recent decades. People were making that very basic connection. The police immediately denied the link, and then the political and media apparatus of this state formed a united front to dismiss such concerns and characterise them as obvious lies and misinformation. So when it comes to light that there is evidence that this individual was motivated by al Qaeda-style Islamism, the question to ask is why it took the police 3-months to communicate the link. The al Qaeda manual and toxin were found in his home which would presumably have been searched within a maximum of 24 hours after the event. Lets say he did a really good job of hiding this material so the police search lasted multiple days. That still does not explain why we had to wait 3-months for the information to be released. All the while the political and media establishment downplayed any link to Islamism. So information was being withheld at the same time as people were being told that links to Islamist terrorism were disinformation. Your comment ignores this point entirely. Instead your response is to essentially downplay the whole furore as a storm in tea cup as long as we can establish that Islamists or those inspired by al Qaeda are not real Muslims. We can have that debate. But the issue is the manipulation of the narrative by the establishment due to the lack of willing to have all of the information in the open - precisely because they're not confident in their ability to control the situation or perception through a debate. Its utterly cynical to hide the information, accuse others of disinformation and then pretend that the facts are inconsequential when they eventually come out.
Kellie Jay Keen is actually brilliant in publicising the GC cause (unlike many academics) and so what if you don’t agree with everything she says?! Her events are great. It’s disingenuous to say that Muslim ideology is no worse than other religions. We live in a democracy, flawed though it is. How many Islamic states can say that? Women are second class citizens in Islam, advocates of women’s rights shouldn’t deny that. We have free speech, we need to use it!
Thank you for your work on this and for this piece. I read something by a victim of one of these grooming lines - while the groomers were of Asian origin, the rapists included plenty of white men. That bit always seems to be forgotten.
I tend to see the blindness re white grooming gangs and white male abuse as akin to property crimes. Their language is filled with possession terminology: “our women” “our girls”. They’re “ours” to profit from and abuse, not yours.
White men weren't imported, they didn't target victims based on race, and they weren't covered up by the police for fear of being called racist, which Jo has beautifully demonstrated right here with her cowardice.
You people are vile. Displaying your fake virtue, thinking you're good people for covering up for third world Pakki rapists, acting like you have moral high ground.
You have none. The torture of those girls is on your heads, and I hope you pay for it one day.
You're all immoral.
And hopefully you'll get shipped to Pakistan with those Pakki rapists.
This is what creates racists. And it's needed. Racism is better than this.
These are male abusers and groomers of Children. That’s what they all have in common. All religions to a greater or lesser extent treat women and children especially girls as less than men or actively subjugate them. It’s Men for the most that groom and abuse children. Men
You make excuses for Pakistani Muslim rapists because you think that makes you superior to racists who tell the truth about race.
You have no moral high ground, you are a coward, you have sacrificed those white girls on the altar of your cowardice, and you think it makes you a good person.
You're not.
If the choice is being like you or being a racist, we're going to pick being a racist.
The word means nothing now, it has no power, and nobody cares.
That's where life has passed you by.
Have shame that you rationalize the rape of girls so you can make excuses for Pakki rapists. You are part of the problem, and thanks for proving why this went on for so long.
The next generation won't stand for it because they don't care about being called racist, and nobody should.
If racism prevents this, then it's morally preferable to your pathetic word salads to excuse these Pakki rape squads.
Unconvincing - just a way to backfill a previously held position into the revelations of the Casey report. “We were right all along!” “Who even is this ‘Left’, anyway?”
Masturbatory and unilluminating.
Three things.
1. You assume a ‘family of man’/open borders/internationalist perspective throughout. This omits the central point that every crime, of whatever type, committed by an immigrant or descendent of an immigrant is a crime that the government has chosen to occur.
2. Genuine concern for victims should not be turned into questioning the motives of those who are similarly concerned. For example, you wouldn’t criticise a leukaemia charity because they didn’t care about breast cancer. Or accuse a group concerned for homeless veterans of discriminating against those who hadn’t served in the military.
3. You also omit the cultural dimension and the assertion of racial/ideological superiority amongst the offenders. This is notable given your fixation with perceived ‘racism’ by those who express horror at the crimes.
I’m engaging in good faith and I have no reason to doubt your intentions. But the argument you express here is, imo, very flimsy.
Islam is hell on earth for women. As simple as that. Other religions are bad? Yes, they are. but islam is the worse. Ban all religions! Proibit it in general! Starting with islamism.
Interesting that time has shown the government to be liars and KJK to way more right about this issue than you thought way back in August when this was written. The perpetrator
Is Muslim and he had Al Qaeda terrorism paraphernalia in his flat. That he was know to police from prior requests by his parents. Are you know starting to understand the lengths the Government and media will go to coverup and censor issues they don’t want being aired in public? It truly is horrific.
This is brilliant Jo. Thankyou for your clarity in the appalling neglect suffered by girls in the care system. (I was one). And thankyou for exposing the racist opportunism of the far right and their hangers on like KJK.
You make the mistake of saying it is no worse, the rapes, that are ethnically motivated. But actually UK law does see these motivators as making a punishment worse - they are called hate crimes. And would include all those factors you mentioned (Asian, white, Muslims, Buddhists, Welsh, Jewish or any other cultural, religious, ethnic or racial categorization you want) if a victim is targeted for any of these reasons, like white girls are by the migrant pimps.
Comprehensive Masterclass in whataboutery. Quite amazing.
I always thought KJK was an attention hound and a provocateur. Her podcasts are dreary, unfunny and unserious. Her interviews are pugnacious and not particularly informative. Credit to her for early attention to trans craze issues. Since then, however, she's mostly been revealed to be loud and shallow.
Please will you repost this article -- needed urgently to counter repetition of the same old stereotypes of Asian grooming gangs -- ignoring the preponderance of white exploiters, misogynist law, and social care & policing failures -- now again dominating the news.
They're not Asian.
They're Pakistani Muslims, they were imported, and the police purposely avoided arresting them for fear of being called racist. These men view white girls as sex slaves, deserving of rape, which is why they target them, and that is Islamic.
That is the bottom line.
Crying about "inflaming tensions" and "avoiding divisions" is what has allowed this rape to go on for so long.
Look at all the word games and word salad these people have to play to convince themselves they're the good ones because they're not racist.
It's pathetic. This is the reason it went on for so long.
If the options are to stop rape or be racist, then it's time to be racist.
Nobody gives a fuck about that word anymore, and nobody should.
These interlopers and foreigners need to be deported, because they were imported, and they will be.
You can cry all you want about racism or tension or whatever the fuck you think makes you a good person.
You aren't. And the upcoming generation won't have it. Those days are gone, and you're the reason for it--I speak to the author.
Now go pat yourself on the back for being not racist, you rape enabler.
You make a lot of claims, but where are your facts? If the Pakistani rape gangs are just a stereotype not backed up by the facts then please present the facts that support your claim. We should see that the ethnicity/race of the perpetrators and victims are on average similar to the percentages that we see in the general or local population.
The rape gangs are Pakistani Muslims.
Everybody knows it.
She's trying to cover her tracks for being a coward and a rape apologist by crying about how at least she's not racist.
It's time to get racist. Nobody cares about being called racist anymore, and nobody should.
Coming back to this piece of yours after a resurgence of the asian grooming gangs issue, in particular after the latest substack from Julie Bindel.
I'd like to ask the same question to you: if police's shortcomings aren't due "simply" to fear of being branded racist, how would you explain them in a better way?
Even after witnessing mad wokery at play in different contexts, and even if I was always skeptical of policing in general, it would still seem strange to me to put the blame simply in an attitude of leftism-gone-mad, but I wouldn't bet "just" on sexism and mysoginy either. More so, if, as I read somewhere, in some circumstances some on the force were actively colluding with gangs. I'd suspect money is involved, and gangs operate not "just" on pimping but as a broader organization, mafia-like. This would also explain why many in the local communities wouldn't speak out, and would actually be defensive against journalists and volunteers inquiries, because of fear of vendettas.
Am I onto something? If so, could you point out some reading along this direction?
Thanks
Like most readers, you see that she's full of shit.
They're not Asian. These are not Japanese atheists or Korean Baptists.
They are Pakistani Muslims, everybody knows it, they were imported, the police covered it up for being petrified of being called racist, and the author plays into that, proving why the problem went on for so long.
These girls were sacrificed on the altar of not being called racist.
It's evil. Racism is a better option than this, and everybody sees it.
There's no reading that needs to be done. You know the truth, and most people do.
What needs to happen is mass deportations. The problem was imported, now it can be deported.
It's also extremely if not more important that these despible gangs operated in Labour strongholds and infiltrated the council as Labour members - hence it has been in Labour's interest (for votes) not to investigate and avoid a national enquiry.
"Just to remind readers - the recent riots were started by disinformation about the identity of the boy in Southport who attacked a girls dance party, knifing many and killing three small girls. The disinformation was that he was Muslim, a migrant, on an MI5 watch list. Many of the populist extremist accounts spread this disinformation."
The murders were carried out on 29th July 2024. This article was written on 9th August 2024. Then on 30th October 2024 - almost 3 months after the tragic event, the police tell us they found a toxin and an al Qaeda training manual at the home of the perpetrator. On the balance of probability, do we think it took them 3 months to find the evidence or that they waited as long as possible to release it (whilst meanwhile offering up other information to obscure identity and motivation)? And will you now acknowledge that the link to Islam cannot be referred to as disinformation? In fact to do so would be to spread disinformation.
https://news.sky.com/story/southport-stabbings-suspect-faces-separate-terror-charge-after-ricin-and-al-qaeda-manual-found-at-home-13243980
The link to Islam or the link to Al-Qaeda? One is a religion preaching against murder and the other is a training manual for militants who will kill anyone (mostly Muslims) for their geopolitical interests. I didn’t find info saying the murderer converted to Islam; I did find info that he’s on the autism spectrum, is shy, had become withdrawn etc.
Unfortunately and tragically, Islam was spread by the sword, which is relevant, as are its teachings regarding women and non-believers. Please read the Quran if you don't believe me and the Hadith - plenty of Islamic websites to confirm what I'm saying. A high percentage of Muslims (a third to a half) say they would prefer to live under Sharia so please check out what this means - Pakistan law is Sharia ... watch 'Candid with Lubna' if you want to know the truth of this culture. Not all Muslims, no. Islam is not a race. Mohammed is said to be fair in the Quran.
The Southport murderer had an Al Qaeda manual which is Islamicist obvs but it is true that his father was apparently a child soldier as part of the Christian Tutsi's ....
Islam preaching against murder? In Yasmine Mohammed‘s book Unveiled she says that at least five times a day over 1 billion people are droning on, calling for the death of all non-Muslims. She goes on to say that this brainwashing undoubtedly infects many minds, and even if only one percent of the over billion people indoctrinated act on the demands, that is still 16 million people. And the truth is that the number is a lot higher than one percent.
The following is obvious to anyone that has eyes to see and ears to hear. When rumours were spreading that the perpetrator was a Muslim, the implication was that he was motivated by al Qaeda-style Islamism, as were many similar attacks in recent decades. People were making that very basic connection. The police immediately denied the link, and then the political and media apparatus of this state formed a united front to dismiss such concerns and characterise them as obvious lies and misinformation. So when it comes to light that there is evidence that this individual was motivated by al Qaeda-style Islamism, the question to ask is why it took the police 3-months to communicate the link. The al Qaeda manual and toxin were found in his home which would presumably have been searched within a maximum of 24 hours after the event. Lets say he did a really good job of hiding this material so the police search lasted multiple days. That still does not explain why we had to wait 3-months for the information to be released. All the while the political and media establishment downplayed any link to Islamism. So information was being withheld at the same time as people were being told that links to Islamist terrorism were disinformation. Your comment ignores this point entirely. Instead your response is to essentially downplay the whole furore as a storm in tea cup as long as we can establish that Islamists or those inspired by al Qaeda are not real Muslims. We can have that debate. But the issue is the manipulation of the narrative by the establishment due to the lack of willing to have all of the information in the open - precisely because they're not confident in their ability to control the situation or perception through a debate. Its utterly cynical to hide the information, accuse others of disinformation and then pretend that the facts are inconsequential when they eventually come out.
I would like to know what you think of Marguerite Stern. Interviewed by Julie Bindel three years ago here: https://thecritic.co.uk/the-radical-feminist-campaigner-who-has-nothing-left-to-lose
Lately in the news for this: www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/260273/radical-feminist-who-desecrated-notre-dame-cathedral-apologizes-to-catholics
As mentioned at https://europeanconservative.com/articles/essay/from-feminists-to-conservatives-an-unexpected-transition she is “willing to talk about the ravages of uncontrolled immigration and militant Islam as a threat to Western women”.
Her record shows that she could be criticised – as KJK is – as a self-publicist.
Does her stance on Islam – that it’s worse than Catholicism – make her a racist?
Personally, I think not. Stern is one of the foremost French campaigners against trans ideology today, rather like KJK in the UK.
What do you think?
Why are you asking her?
She thinks allowing rape is better than being called a racist.
Kellie Jay Keen is actually brilliant in publicising the GC cause (unlike many academics) and so what if you don’t agree with everything she says?! Her events are great. It’s disingenuous to say that Muslim ideology is no worse than other religions. We live in a democracy, flawed though it is. How many Islamic states can say that? Women are second class citizens in Islam, advocates of women’s rights shouldn’t deny that. We have free speech, we need to use it!
Thank you for your work on this and for this piece. I read something by a victim of one of these grooming lines - while the groomers were of Asian origin, the rapists included plenty of white men. That bit always seems to be forgotten.
I tend to see the blindness re white grooming gangs and white male abuse as akin to property crimes. Their language is filled with possession terminology: “our women” “our girls”. They’re “ours” to profit from and abuse, not yours.
White men weren't imported, they didn't target victims based on race, and they weren't covered up by the police for fear of being called racist, which Jo has beautifully demonstrated right here with her cowardice.
You people are vile. Displaying your fake virtue, thinking you're good people for covering up for third world Pakki rapists, acting like you have moral high ground.
You have none. The torture of those girls is on your heads, and I hope you pay for it one day.
You're all immoral.
And hopefully you'll get shipped to Pakistan with those Pakki rapists.
This is what creates racists. And it's needed. Racism is better than this.
Have some shame.
These are male abusers and groomers of Children. That’s what they all have in common. All religions to a greater or lesser extent treat women and children especially girls as less than men or actively subjugate them. It’s Men for the most that groom and abuse children. Men
I am not a cultural relativist. I am also atheist. I agree that all the world's majority religions are used to justify sex based inequalities.
Some are clearly worse than others.
You are a cultural relativist, Jo.
You make excuses for Pakistani Muslim rapists because you think that makes you superior to racists who tell the truth about race.
You have no moral high ground, you are a coward, you have sacrificed those white girls on the altar of your cowardice, and you think it makes you a good person.
You're not.
If the choice is being like you or being a racist, we're going to pick being a racist.
The word means nothing now, it has no power, and nobody cares.
That's where life has passed you by.
Have shame that you rationalize the rape of girls so you can make excuses for Pakki rapists. You are part of the problem, and thanks for proving why this went on for so long.
The next generation won't stand for it because they don't care about being called racist, and nobody should.
If racism prevents this, then it's morally preferable to your pathetic word salads to excuse these Pakki rape squads.
Have shame at your lack of integrity.
Thank you for this. Very enlightening.
Yes, it's enlightening to see how those Pakkis got away with raping white girls for so long.
It's because of cowards and phonies like Jo.
Not just, but Jo def doesn't help get a proper national enquiry.